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An interview with Sue Dockett and Bob Perry
Please tell us about your present position and
what was your motivation to train as an Early Childhood Educator?
Sue: Professor of Early Childhood Education, Murray School of Education,
Charles Sturt University, Albury. My position is mainly involved in research,
workforce planning in early childhood and teaching of research students.
I am also the Associate Dean of Early Childhood within the Faculty of Education.
Currently, my main areas of research and publication include educational
transitions, staying on at high school, researching with children, learning
and assessment in higher education, play in early childhood, and early childhood
mathematics education.
Bob: Professor of Education, Murray School of Education,
Charles Sturt University, Albury. My position is mainly involved with the
development of the research
ethos in the Faculty of Education, both through my own work and through the
nurturing of other, less-experienced researchers. Currently, my main areas
of research and publication include early childhood mathematics education,
educational transitions, staying on at high school, education of Indigenous
students, mathematics and educational transitions as agents of social justice,
professional development of early childhood educators, and curriculum development
and evaluation.
What is your current passion in relation to Early Childhood Education?
Sue: My current passions revolve around recognition and
celebration of the rights of children and of the capabilities of children.
I have written extensively
around ethical issues in researching with children and some of the unintended
consequences of involving children in research. Transition to school continues
to be a passion for me. It is great to see our work used in many states of
Australia as the basis of both systemic and local transition programs. There
is still a long way to go in some places but progress is being made. Notions
of transition generally interest me, and there is much evidence to suggest
that the same things are important across many educational transitions, be
they the transition to school, from primary to secondary school or on to
university.
Bob: I am passionate about the ways in which non-Indigenous people have created
inequities for Indigenous people and then praised any attempt to 'bridge
the gap'. Indigenous knowledge needs to be recognised and celebrated. While
traditional school knowledge is important for all learners in order for them
to function in the mainstream society, recognition and celebration of the
knowledge and skills that all children bring to school is desperately needed.
Where do you see yourself in five year’s time?
Sue: In five years time, I shall still be actively engaged in early childhood
education research. Hopefully, we will have made real progress in translating
some of our research into practice and life will be just that much better
for children, families, educators and communities.
Bob: Retired, hopefully growing great vegetables and enjoying doing only
those projects that really interest me.
What is your hope for the future of Early Childhood Education
and where do you see Early Childhood Services in 10 year’s time?
Sue: I hope early childhood education and early childhood services into the
future re-emphasise their focus on the wellbeing of children, families and
communities. The role of early childhood educators is changing rapidly and
the skills and expertise educators will need to lead early childhood services
will no doubt have changed.
Bob: The stranglehold of politicians and bureaucrats over
early childhood education will be gone and dedicated, skilled and talented
early childhood
educators will have helped children to re-establish themselves as children.
We are currently in real danger of robbing our children of their childhood
and we need to work really hard, against difficult odds, to resist this trend.
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